The 1st tree has an ugly box but is big and beautiful put together. It is 7.6" tell and very fat, I have to leave the bottom row off to fit presents under it. I will throw in lights and ornaments The 2nd is shorter and thinner I've never used it because it was given to me and i already had one.Like i said, its thinner and about 6" tall It has lights attached and some ornaments. If you cannot ...